Wednesday, August 4, 2010

Political Hate Emails & My Response

So this was emailed to me today, on my work email:

"Giovanni Carbone states what is fact and what we all believe.
Giovanni would be in his 70's at least.
A GREAT PERSPECTIVE FROM A ‘NEW’ AUSTRALIAN -



I emigrated to Australia over 60 years ago – On the ship there were Poms, Italians (Spags), Germans (Huns), Yugoslavs (Yuges), Poles, Ducchys and Greeks, (Note – All European people!!) all looking forward to starting a new life in Australia. I arrived with 30 quid in my pocket and that’s all I had to my name Did I put my hand out?? Of course not – I got a job and paid my way just like everyone else who came to this country back then.

Now, it’s my taxes that subsidise these people who think they have Gods given right (read Allah) to come here and criticise those of us who have worked for the country we now call home.

If I didn’t like what I saw when I got here I would have gone home – they have the same option.

If they don’t want to become an Australian,
they can GO BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM
– WE DON’T NEED THEM HERE!!!

When will this stop?
They want 2 of their own public holidays, because Christians have
Christmas, Easter & Good Friday,
They force our children to eat Halal Meat Pies and Sausage Rolls from the school canteens, so the Muslim kids can feel more Aussie. We were not consulted about this change - they went ahead and just did it.
Our foods are slowly all becoming Halal foods, our cheeses, chocolates & even good old "Sanitarium" foods

Our Government is ALLOWING this to happen. It has to stop now, while we still have some power to be able to stop it.

Regarding Our National Anthem -

I am sorry, but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in Arabic - enough is enough. Nowhere or at no other time in our nation's history, did they sing it in Italian, Japanese, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German, Portuguese, Greek, or any other language because of immigration.
It was written in English, and should be sung word for word the way it was written.

The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even close.

I am not sorry if this offends anyone, this is MY COUNTRY -
IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP ---- please pass this along

I am not against immigration -- just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and LONG LIVE Australia !

PART OF THE PROBLEM
Think about this:
If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone-
YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM !!!!
Will we still be the Country of Choice and still be Australia if we continue
to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries
who have come to live in Australia because it is their Country of Choice??

Think about it!

IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.

It is Time for Australia to Speak up!
If you agree -- pass this along; if you don't agree -- delete it!
that's your choice

(in this Australia where 'freedom of speech' is a fundamental right of every Australian)
THIS IS FROM A BLOODY ITALIAN DAGO WHO MIGRATED TO AUSTRALIA
IN THE LATE 1940s"


HERE’S MY REPLY:

In future, can people not forward me such garbage?



You might as well be reading Alice in Wonderland as this coward’s “facts” are so far from the truth it’s not funny. I say he is a coward because he does not have the courage to stand behind his hateful words and all those others who forwarded this without keeping their email in there.



Well my name is Mu’ammar Majam (you can call me mo) and my phone number is 0404096164 – and feel free to call me anytime regarding this because I have no qualms about standing behind what I say.



Simply because it is based on FACT – not the ranting of someone who listens to Alan Jones too often.



Now if you were bothered to read his email, I suggest you read my responses to his statements, because if you do care about this issue, then you might want to know the facts and I will provide links (see below) to reputable sources so you can check them yourself as opposed to listening to the ranting of “some guy”.



http://www.kochie.com.au/20100707165/avoid-the-political-spin-some-facts-on-asylum-seekers



http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/current/myths.html



http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/current/mediablunders.html



http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/docs/releases/2010/100309%20Updated%20Response%20to%20email%20on%20Centrelink%20benefits.pdf





I am not sure if this guy’s issue is with asylum seekers or Muslims in general, however just to note; there were Muslim’s on the first fleet…



I am not going to respond to the ranting and raving but I will respond where the facts are so far from “facts” its ridiculous.



Finally – loving one’s country does not mean some sort of blind nationalism – you know who had blind ultra nationalism – Nazi Germany – I love my country and would defend it to the death HOWEVER that does not mean I don’t want it to change for the better… Seems to make sense to me… if people who weren’t in the majority just “had to adapt” then Aboriginals wouldn’t have a vote, we would not have any changes in work laws for migrants and much much more that we enjoy as part of our “freedoms” in this democracy. That was how we “adapted” as a country for the better of our nation.



First he says:





He Says:“Did I put my hand out?? Of course not – I got a job and paid my way just like everyone else who came to this country back then. Now, it’s my taxes that subsidise these people who think they have Gods given right (read Allah) to come here and criticise those of us who have worked for the country we now call home.”



Mo’s Reply:

‘Boat people’ are asylum seekers. Refugees are asylum seekers who have been approved and given a visa. None of them are ‘illegal immigrants’.
We do not get to pick and chose where our taxes go. We elect our governments and they spend our tax dollars for the benefit of ALL. I do not want my taxes going to pay for baby bonuses but they do. That is part of living in a Democracy.
When an asylum seeker arrives in Australia, they do not get any Centrelink benefits. While their status is being processed, and if they meet certain criteria, they can be eligible for financial support from the Asylum Seeker Assistance Scheme, administered through the Red Cross. This amount is 89% of the basic Centrelink allowance. This means approximately $405.84 per fortnight – over $260 less than a pensioner.
Once an asylum seeker is recognised as a genuine refugee, after a long and highly scrutinized process, they are given permanent residency and are then entitled to the same Centrelink, schooling and health benefits as anyone else. No more, no less.
The normal Centrelink welfare payment is $456 per fortnight, for a refugee with permanent residency and an Australian-born person. A pensioner in Australia receives $671.90. Over $200 more each fortnight. Even with family/parenting benefits, a refugee’s benefits would still be less than a pensioner’s income.
For an asylum seeker to qualify for any payment under the Asylum Seeker Assistance Scheme, they must have lodged an application for a visa 6 months before, not be in detention, and not get any other payment or benefit.
To get a permanent residence as a refugee, the person has to prove they are a genuine refugee fleeing persecution, go through character, security and medical tests, and sign an Australian Values Statement.
He Says: They want 2 of their own public holidays, because Christians have Christmas, Easter & Good Friday.

Mo Says: That is a falsehood, however just like every other person who is of another religion, like a Jewish person or a Hindu or even a Muslim – they get their religious holiday’s off from work – just like everyone else.



He Says: They force our children to eat Halal Meat Pies and Sausage Rolls from the school canteens, so the Muslim kids can feel more Aussie. We were not consulted about this change - they went ahead and just did it. Our foods are slowly all becoming Halal foods, our cheeses, chocolates & even good old "Sanitarium" foods

Mo Says: Firstly halal food is merely a method of slaughtering and preparing. If your food has changed to Halal you will not notice a difference. However, if a business chooses to change its processes to make more money – what does our government have to do with it? Also, if a school changes its suppliers of sausage rolls it must have a community forum on it? That seems ridiculous. Fact is – there is no discernible difference in the taste and content of pies made in a Halal fashion.

With regard to Sanitarium – they are wholly owned by the 7th Day Adventist Church. So if they have moved to Halal production methods, there must be a pretty good reason a Christian company would do that.



He Says: I am not against immigration -- just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and LONG LIVE Australia !



Mo Says: as shown in the facts I posted above – they do have to live by the rules.



What annoys me about this guy’s hateful bile is that it is so far removed from what I think our Australia is. The land of the fair go, of mateship and respect. Unfortunately I see none of this in Mr Carbone’s email. Being a so called Christian country – how can we be speaking in such an un-Christ like manner or treating people in such an un-Christ like manner?



My Australia is not a place of hate, I hope yours isn’t either.